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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Hackmodford on April 26th 2011, 10:30 pm

    Got all the lines laid out in order...

    Need a couple retakes here and there, and there's a few missing lines of course.

    I've got some awesome credit music that should fit Paeter's voice good Wink

    It's alot easier to lay out music ones you have the groundwork done...

    All in all, a satisfying days work.

    I sure hope this log helps other people too Very Happy

    You need to get the other directers more active on the forum paeter Wink


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    Post  Nora Freeze on May 4th 2011, 6:55 pm

    (Voice Actress for Brianna Summers) Really cool to finally get in here are see the progress of this thing! My school was blocking things at random and I finally got them to let me into Spiritblade stuff.
    I am very excited just reading about the different things that are going on for this drama! Very cool, it looks like you all put a ton of time and effort into this...I am amazed! Thank you for making something Christian for us Trekkies! (Trekkers, etc!)

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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Paeter on May 4th 2011, 7:05 pm

    Nora Freeze wrote:(Voice Actress for Brianna Summers) Really cool to finally get in here are see the progress of this thing! My school was blocking things at random and I finally got them to let me into Spiritblade stuff.
    I am very excited just reading about the different things that are going on for this drama! Very cool, it looks like you all put a ton of time and effort into this...I am amazed! Thank you for making something Christian for us Trekkies! (Trekkers, etc!)

    I'm pretty stoked! Sounds like it will be great! LOVE your avatar, by the way!


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Hackmodford on May 5th 2011, 9:04 am

    Yeah... cool avatar. What is that? Sleeping Beauty with some blue lighting/lightning effects?

    Edit: I haven't worked on ANYTHING in a while... alot of personal stuff is going on that I need prayer for...

    In any case I think I've learned something new. I will always include a txt file in the root directory of my projects that includes the names of the actors with which charecter they're voicing and their email address...

    Sometimes I forget these things Embarassed


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Paeter on May 6th 2011, 1:13 am

    Hackmodford wrote:Yeah... cool avatar. What is that? Sleeping Beauty with some blue lighting/lightning effects?

    Edit: I haven't worked on ANYTHING in a while... alot of personal stuff is going on that I need prayer for...


    That's Nora Freeze, Mr. Freeze's wife, whom he froze until he could find a cure for her terminal illness. Mr. Freeze is a Batman villain by the way. One of my favorites, ESPECIALLY in the animated series, which I think that image was taken from.

    Sorry you're being put through the wringer right now. You might post a request in the prayer forum. You've come to mind more than once lately in my prayer time, for reasons not obvious to me. God must be working. I'll keep praying for you. Hang in there.


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Hackmodford on May 7th 2011, 10:44 am

    Thanks Paeter... and now I remember the face Wink

    I just recorded Roberts part for the path captain/commander (shows up both ways in the script)
    Since he was coming over a loudspeaker in the story I just recorded him in my car with my macbooks microphone. Then we were messing around with the recording, putting it in line with everyone else... and I lowered the pitch of his voice about 3 semitones (whatever a semitone is...) This made his voice sound cooler! He agreed but I think was disappointed that no one will recognize him now Sad

    I got the music in the story. All lines are in place. I just have to do a run of some major SFX and go through doing the foley...

    My least favorite part x)


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Paeter on May 7th 2011, 11:37 am

    Hackmodford wrote:I just have to do a run of some major SFX and go through doing the foley...

    My least favorite part x)

    Bummer. Why is it your least favorite? Can you describe your process a little?


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Hackmodford on May 7th 2011, 4:44 pm

    Probably because it takes work? I don't know...

    I first lay out the lines in the correct order, pick the right takes, space them etc....
    That's my favorite part...

    Then I go hunting for music and put it in, I enjoy that too...

    But doing sfx like footsteps means I have to get out a mic/mixer/computer setup (which I'm not setup for ideally) and get something to make the sounds, an old pair of boots, get on my hands and knees and "fake" walk for each charecter.

    And I don't have a sfx library so trying to dig up a sound for a door opening or a lazer gun usually means I have to be very creative or find something or buy a sound etc.

    I don't know... I just find mixing the best process... At this point it feels like I've lost steam, but I still want to finish/complete the projects...

    Does that make sense? Just ask if you want me to clarify something...


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Paeter on May 7th 2011, 5:51 pm

    That makes sense. I take a different approach and so there isn't as much foley involved, except for the odd effect I need to create. A large part of that is because I've invested a fair chunk of change in a sound effects library, which not everybody can do.

    Have you thought about re-using footsteps recorded for previous projects, building your own sound effects library to re-use?

    I cut and paste existing footstep sounds rather than record new ones every time. Would that be less tedious for you?


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Hackmodford on May 7th 2011, 11:53 pm

    Yes it would be easier but it wouldn't satisfy me Wink

    I'm going for the radio theatre method or professional method where you always record the foley... I mean sure! I'll re-use a sfx, but I want foley to be special (especially footsteps)

    I might try it someday though.... but the big problem is I just don't really have the setup necessary to do REAL GOOD foley and don't have the money to invest in a sfx library...

    But I do what I can Wink


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Paeter on May 8th 2011, 1:04 am

    I here ya. It's not worth doing if you can't give attention to the particulars you care about.

    Well, best of luck then and hopefully it will go by quickly!


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  kevinpowe on June 16th 2011, 8:25 am

    HELLO! Sorry for being absent from the discussion for so long - and thank you for the long slog you've been doing, Brandon.

    I use REAPER for my recording and post-processing as well - just finished a course boning up on some comprehensive basics. You're absolutely right about the noise reduction - it's amazing. The selection of basic plugins will do 90% of what you need.

    I'm SUPER-impressed that you do SFX via foley, too - I can understand why you find that part of it less pleasant. If it's any help at all, I can recommend a number of free SFX sites that at least on a shallow inspection have proven pretty reasonable.

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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Hackmodford on June 16th 2011, 8:59 am

    Please do! I'm about ready to pick things up again on this project Very Happy

    Edit: And add them to the sticky post while you're at it Wink


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    Sound FX/music resources

    Post  kevinpowe on June 19th 2011, 7:14 am

    Here's the list of links I was thinking of, kindly curated by Dave Courvoisier

    http://www.courvo.biz/2010/05/50-royalty-free-stock-music-sites.html

    And then there's:

    http://www.sitepoint.com/30-creative-commons-sources/

    For paid FX, I've heard good things about http://www.soundsnap.com/

    So far I've been using http://www.freesound.org/

    Also, as a free resource this seems pretty good: http://soundbible.com/

    There's also this, which is not as extensive, but has great quality audio: http://www.stephanschutze.com/sound-library.html

    (will add these to the sticky post as you suggested shortly)

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    Post  Nora Freeze on June 28th 2011, 4:15 pm

    I am very glad you are going to begin working on this again. I am very excited about it, and my sister keeps asking when it will be available to listen to. (She's more of a Star Trek geek than even I am!) Thanks so much for all the time and attention you're putting into these productions!

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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Hackmodford on October 5th 2011, 11:30 am

    Learned something new...
    I like the voice tracks to be mono...
    No particular reason... just looks nice, smaller file size, and I do all the panning anyways so it doesn't really matter...

    Mono just works better Wink


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Paeter on October 5th 2011, 5:14 pm

    Hackmodford wrote:Learned something new...
    I like the voice tracks to be mono...
    No particular reason... just looks nice, smaller file size, and I do all the panning anyways so it doesn't really matter...

    Mono just works better Wink

    What percentage smaller are the files, about? I like mono sometimes because it gives a little more precise control over voice panning, but never noticed the change in file size before. Bonus!


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Hackmodford on October 6th 2011, 9:23 am

    I'm not sure to be honest... but I would imagine it would reduce the size by around 50% since it's only 1 track instead of two... of course when you mix the project it's back to stereo and it all comes back. But when you have the audio files just sitting on the HDD like resources it can save space I'm sure!


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Paeter on October 6th 2011, 4:19 pm

    Hackmodford wrote:But when you have the audio files just sitting on the HDD like resources it can save space I'm sure!

    Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. (I'm looking for ways to save space on my HDD lately.)


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  mindspike on October 8th 2011, 3:44 pm

    Reducing to mono doesn't just reduce the file size, it also reduces overall fidelity and absolute volume by decreasing the noise to gain ratio.


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Hackmodford on October 8th 2011, 5:37 pm

    In English for audio noobs Very Happy
    Good or bad idea?


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  mindspike on October 9th 2011, 2:18 pm

    Good or bad idea?
    Do you want to reduce file size? Good idea.
    Do you want to preserve quality? Bad idea.

    I should have correctly typed "signal-to-noise ratio" instead of "noise-to-gain ratio" (holdover from my college radio days, sorry).

    Without devolving into horribly detailed math, you can think of each audio track as a speaker.
    Each speaker contains signal (desirable audio) and noise (undesirable audio).
    Let's assume a low signal-to-noise ratio, by valuing signal as "3" and noise as "2".
    With one speaker, we get three parts signal for every two parts noise (3:2), for a total volume of "5".
    With two speakers, we *multiply* the values, getting a signal-to-noise ratio of 9:4, more than twice as much desirable audio as undesirable audio, and a total volume of "13".

    Most microphone/recording systems used at home have a fairly low signal-to-noise ratio. You can find this rating on your packaging in most cases. A typical rating is 70dB, or a 94dB:24dB ratio. A good professional microphone will have a rating between 200dB-400dB, or even better.

    But this is just the math. Probably you should rely on the difference detectable by your ear...


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  WhiteBoy on October 10th 2011, 9:57 am

    Sweet...thanks for the technical part! I'm going to start a different thread because I have a few questions and don't want to get off topic.


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Hackmodford on October 21st 2011, 12:23 pm

    Thought I'd share this...

    Me and Jaron are going to be working on this now. Jaron is handling the SFX and I am a director/mixer

    We're both using reaper (windows, mac, linux)
    And we're using Dropbox to share the same project archive with each other.

    So if Jaron makes a change, I get it immediately and vice versa...

    Also i'm using a mac and Jaron is using windows...

    pretty neat Wink


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    Re: U.S.S. Sasquatch First Flight

    Post  Paeter on October 21st 2011, 6:53 pm

    Hackmodford wrote:Thought I'd share this...

    Me and Jaron are going to be working on this now. Jaron is handling the SFX and I am a director/mixer

    We're both using reaper (windows, mac, linux)
    And we're using Dropbox to share the same project archive with each other.

    So if Jaron makes a change, I get it immediately and vice versa...

    Also i'm using a mac and Jaron is using windows...

    pretty neat Wink

    Oooh! That DOES sound like a cool way to collaborate! Have fun guys!


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